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Message 35408 - Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 4:06:53 UTC

version 6.10.56 utilised 100% CPU 8 cores when not busy now only does 40% and using 3 of my 8 cores, ITS GOING BACKWARDS
Will probably have to reinstall 6.10.56.
Any Advice.

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25/10/2010 2:51:54 PM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
25/10/2010 2:51:54 PM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
25/10/2010 2:51:54 PM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
25/10/2010 2:51:54 PM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
25/10/2010 2:51:54 PM Running under account robert
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz [Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5]
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Processor: 256.00 KB cache
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 nx lm vmx tm2 popcnt pbe
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Memory: 6.00 GB physical, 12.00 GB virtual
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Disk: 465.66 GB total, 105.10 GB free
25/10/2010 2:51:55 PM Local time is UTC +11 hours
25/10/2010 2:51:56 PM NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9800 GT (driver version 25896, CUDA version 3010, compute capability 1.1, 1002MB, 414 GFLOPS peak)

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Message 35409 - Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 5:16:53 UTC - in response to Message 35408.  

Yes.
First bit of advice: Don't bother reinstalling; it's most often something that the user has done wrong.

Check your preferences, both on the project(s) web page(s), (Computing preferences), and on the computer.
In the manager's menu: Advanced -> Preferences -> processor preferences.

What you need to check for in both places, is the percentage of the processors being used.
Note that, if you casually browse through the manager's menu, and then exit by clicking OK, you'll create a local override file, so always leave by clicking the red X in the top right of the window. If this was the case, click the Clear button.

The other thing that can go wrong, is with your choice of projects, and whether or not they have work.
Also, whether or not you have a work unit suspended. (Which will prevent the download of more work. Often happens with cpdn only crunchers.)

Start with the pref settings, and post again if you need more advice.

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Message 35423 - Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 22:34:55 UTC - in response to Message 35409.  

thanks, i have reset all project preferences and reload config and pref files, seems to work fine now
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Message 35446 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 1:20:31 UTC

still seems to be a problem only using 3 processors 40% cpu out of the 8
no idea how to fix it, see image. Had always ran with all processors


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Message 35451 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 6:51:21 UTC - in response to Message 35449.  

Verify if you have this kind of cc_config.xml file :

<cc_config>
<options>
<ncpus>8</ncpus>
<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>
<save_stats_days>730</save_stats_days>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>
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Message 35452 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 6:59:56 UTC - in response to Message 35451.  

Verify if you have this kind of cc_config.xml file :
<cc_config>
    <options>
	<ncpus>8</ncpus>
	<report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately>
	<save_stats_days>730</save_stats_days>
	<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
    </options>
</cc_config>

The <ncpus> option is only for debugging purposes and should be removed from the cc_config.xml file.

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Message 35458 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 11:47:40 UTC

Yes, please do not advise to use the <ncpus> option in a core client configuration file for any other purposes than to debug how it runs on a processor that can't do that many tasks at the same time.

The option isn't used to set the amount of CPU cores. You use the global and override preferences for that.

I have answered Sandman192 in his own thread.
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Message 35459 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 11:53:41 UTC
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Have searched for file cc_config.xml and can not find.
looked in program files and program data
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Message 35461 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 35459.  

Good, since you don't need it when you're not ready for it. BOINC doesn't come with one, you will always have to make one yourself for the first time, and only do so when you know what to do with it (advanced users only). (Barraud isn't an advanced user when he tells everyone to use ncpus instead of preferences to set the amount of processors. He has definitely not ever read any of the pages on cc_config.xml, such as this FAQ. :-))
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Message 35463 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 35461.  
Last modified: 28 Oct 2010, 12:18:19 UTC

GOOD, so .56 worked, why does .58 NOT WORK
Further adding to the problem

The projects are changing between each other in seconds. I have set it for 10min.
Version 5.6 has never let me down

Hopefully this thread can be sent to the program developers

Full log file http://www.rditsolutions.com.au/seti/log.txt

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Message 35464 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:15:56 UTC
Last modified: 28 Oct 2010, 12:16:28 UTC

I know you've done so before, but please bear with us: On the 6.10.58 installation, please exit and restart BOINC and then post all of the messages you have at that time (not just the first 10). Perhaps that that gives us more to work with.

Also, check in your BOINC Data directory:
Do you have a global_prefs.xml file? You should. Can you post its contents here, please?
Do you have a global_prefs_override.xml file? If all is well, you shouldn't. If you do however, can you post its contents here?

With thanks.
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Message 35465 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 35464.  
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Message 35467 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:42:00 UTC
Last modified: 28 Oct 2010, 13:05:38 UTC

Your messages log doesn't show us anything, other than that work is happening.
So we're going to use the cc_config.xml file.

Please open Notepad.
Add into it:
<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<checkpoint_debug>1</checkpoint_debug>
<cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
<mem_usage_debug>1</mem_usage_debug>
<sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug>
</log_flags>
</cc_config>

Save this file as an All Files, format ANSI, called cc_config.xml in your BOINC Data directory, C:\ProgramData\BOINC
This directory may be hidden, but in you fill it in on the address bar on Notepad's save URL line, it'll save it to there no matter what (e.g. C:\ProgramData\BOINC\cc_config.xml )

Make sure it uses an underscore and has the .xml extension. It shouldn't have a .txt extension.

Next we make BOINC use it, so please exit BOINC (BOINC Manager->File->Exit, check "Stop running science applications when exiting manager" and click OK) and restart it (Start->All Programs->BOINC->BOINC Manager), then run it for approximately 5 to 10 minutes with these settings and then post a new log of all the messages. That's a log I could hypothetically send to the developers if it shows something wrong.
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Message 35468 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 12:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 35467.  

28/10/2010 11:47:54 PM Missing start tag in cc_config.xml


This is the file i saved

<cc_config.xml>
<log_flags>
<checkpoint_debug>1</checkpoint_debug>
<cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
<mem_usage_debug>1</mem_usage_debug>
<sched_op_debug>1</sched_op_debug>
</log_flags>
</cc_config.xml>

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Message 35469 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:06:58 UTC - in response to Message 35468.  

Ah sorry, my mistake. I've edited my post with the cc_config.xml

It had <cc_config.xml> tags, where they needed to be just <cc_config>
Habit. ;-)
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Message 35470 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:18:22 UTC - in response to Message 35469.  

Please note down to 2 processors 17% CPU usage, thanks for all your help, time for sleep, check later


file as requested
http://www.rditsolutions.com.au/seti/debug_log.txt

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Message 35471 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 13:45:03 UTC
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OK, let's make sure your BOINC uses the web-based preferences only: Open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Advanced->Preferences->click Clear. Do not return to the advanced preferences (to peek in or whatever) until you really want to use them.

After you have cleared the local preferences, your BOINC should immediately start using the online preferences (last updated from Cosmology, but you can update them on whichever project you're attached to, of course). Please let us know what that does.
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Message 35490 - Posted: 28 Oct 2010, 23:42:20 UTC - in response to Message 35471.  

Well this morning all 8 processors are running and CPU @ 100% no idea why.
I have done as you asked re preference. will watch closely.

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Message 35492 - Posted: 29 Oct 2010, 0:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 35490.  

I suspect you had not enough work on the system to run on all 8 cores. But as said, just suspicion.
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