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Message 35701 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 8:49:36 UTC
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Hi,

The World Community Grid invited my team for a Challenge. Because of the lack of work at S@H I thought a nice idea.

I went to the site and mistakenly installed WCG-BOINC. Now everything is a mess :( projects don't take any CPU-power (once every minute or so CPU-load goes to about 80%, I see the estimated time go down a second or two and then nothing again).. I tried:
- repairing the install by executing the standard BOINC (6.10.58 voor Windows XP/32)
- detaching and re-attaching a project
- completely removing the BOINC-install and installing it again.

Nothing works, I am at a loss, I made a screendump right after boot with boinc and processes open (the only program I shut down before the screendump was TThrottle), please take a look

Can someone give me some help in reviving this Windows XP machine with a Q9550 (intel/quad) CPU?

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Message 35702 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 9:18:26 UTC - in response to Message 35701.  
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Here is another screendump (with the BOINC-messages tab open this time).

What I noticed (I pressed CTRL-ALT-DEL pretty fast this time), that at first everything looks good, 4 tasks for 'boinc_project' start, but a few moments later there are more as you can see.

I almost get the impression that there are two BOINC's in my system now, the original and the WCG one??

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These are the processes during startup
I have searched the registry for the word 'wcg' there were some skin-entries still there, but nothing that would suggest some ghost WCG-BOINC. I removed those entries, but no effect.
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Message 35703 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 9:49:18 UTC

WCG BOINC is uninstalled with its own uninstaller. Check in Windows Add/Remove Programs for World Community Grid, not BOINC.

Why it would still start twice, I don't know. Check for the presence of a cc_config.xml file (the WCG BOINC comes with one). Check for <ncpus> entry.

You can just attach to WCG through BOINC, you don't require WCG's version of the client to run its applications.
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Message 35704 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 10:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 35703.  
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Good idea, I tried to remove BOINC with the WCG-installer, but during the uninstall it mentions it can't remove boinc.dll.

I tried this with an admin-account. I tried to restart in safe mode, I was unable there to continue the uninstall also.

I tried to access the folder where boinc.dll is, I was unable to access that folder with the admin account and with my account with admin rights!

The only way I could gain access again was to to install boinc again (I tried the WCG installer). I could access that folder again. I renamed that folder and attempted an uninstall again, it created that folder again with access errors again.

I tried to repair with the standard BOINC installer, and now everything is back to the way it was (no processor usage).

Arg, arg, now I am thinking that the WCG-installer completely messes up rights in some way :( What a complete disaster that installer is :(

You can just attach to WCG through BOINC, you don't require WCG's version of the client to run its applications.


I know now, I know now.. I am regretting installing this WCG-installer for over a week now :-/
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Message 35705 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 12:22:21 UTC

I'll let both the BOINC and WCG developers know there's problems with their version. Which WCG version were you using?
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Message 35709 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 13:51:29 UTC - in response to Message 35705.  
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I had "standard" version 6.10.58 installed (working correctly), then (unintentionally) installed version 6.10.58 of WCG. And have been trying to get back to the standard version (correctly functioning...)
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Message 35710 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 14:47:01 UTC - in response to Message 35705.  
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AD: the standard version did the uninstall perfectly (no rights complaints). So in many ways the WCG-version is my big suspect.

I'll let both the BOINC and WCG developers know there's problems with their version. Which WCG version were you using?


.. and thanks (in advance) for the effort!
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Message 35715 - Posted: 13 Nov 2010, 23:30:25 UTC

What you could do, while we wait for any developer to come look (I haven't heard from any of them), is clean out BOINC rigorously and restart fresh. See this FAQ for more information.
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Message 35771 - Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 21:16:18 UTC
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OK, I have tried several things this evening, with finaly:
- aborted all tasks and disconnected from the projects
- using the FAQ Ageless suggested
- removing BOINC
- executing the bat file (didn't seem to work all to well at my end)
- removing all registry, user & group entries suggested
- manually removing the BOINC dir and data-dir
- manually removing practically all Boinc related registry entries (several dozen more!)
- discovered that the WCG-BOINC was visible and removable in the Windows-software section

And.. well.. installed BOINC aqain.. and.. well.. I'm at a loss.. I can't imagine what else I can do!?
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Message 35774 - Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 21:27:05 UTC - in response to Message 35771.  
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OK, so you're at an all clean installation now. How does it work?
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Message 35779 - Posted: 17 Nov 2010, 23:42:28 UTC

Sorry I apparently wasn't clear: no change what so ever :(
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Message 35820 - Posted: 20 Nov 2010, 19:04:50 UTC

I was thinking.. chances are that there are still some settings lingering in my computer of the WCG-BOINC version.. can anyone tell me what stuff the WCG-BOINC version install on my system (if possible in just as complete a way as the link Ageless supplied)?
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Message 35829 - Posted: 21 Nov 2010, 18:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 35820.  

Absolutely completely unbelievable.. there was a CPU usage setting set to 5%, how it got there, and more importantly remained there with all my re-install attempts, is a complete mystery to me! But it's working again as it should!
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