On a couple occasions recently, I have noticed that there has been a second BOINC Manager appearing in my Hidden Icons area of Windows7 64-bit Home Premium.

I know when I start up, one automatically appears, but somewhere along the line, a second appears. When you mouse over them, one shows how many tasks are running, but the other says "Not connected to a client."

When I right-click on the one "not connected" and try to exit, I get the usual shutdown dialog box about stopping all work, just the same as if I were trying to right-click/exit on the instance that has 5 tasks running.

Is there any problem with BOINCManager for this to happen, and will it cause anything to ultimately stop crunching?

Paul

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As an added note: I did check the Startup folder, and BOINCManager doesn't appear.

Other pertinant info:

Windows 7 Premium Home 64-bit
Intel Core2 Quad Q8400
ATI Radeon HD4850
8GB RAM
BOINCManager Ver: 6.10.58
All programs associated with BOINC, except Manager, are what came with each proj
All System drivers up to date

Is it possible, that your (or All users') "Start Menu\Programs\Startup" contains a link to BOINC Manager? (BOINC installer likes to create an entry in "HKLM\Software\MS\Windows\CurrVersion\Run", even if the "Allow all users to control BOINC" checkbox switched off.)-:

Is there any problem with BOINCManager for this to happen

Most apparently it was caused by the BOINC installer. Both Manager and client just get pretty confused...

will it cause anything to ultimately stop crunching?

No, usually not, if the tasks already seem to be running.

Peter

Is it possible, that your (or All users') "Start Menu\Programs\Startup" contains a link to BOINC Manager? (BOINC installer likes to create an entry in "HKLM\Software\MS\Windows\CurrVersion\Run", even if the "Allow all users to control BOINC" checkbox switched off.)-:

Is there any problem with BOINCManager for this to happen

Most apparently it was caused by the BOINC installer. Both Manager and client just get pretty confused...

will it cause anything to ultimately stop crunching?

No, usually not, if the tasks already seem to be running.

Peter

The newer BOINC installers put the "run" instruction into the registry. The old BOINC installers used to put a shortcut link in the start menu startup group (sorry, I can't remember the transition point between 'new' and 'old' in that sentence). But I think all of us who were active upgraders at that point went through the transition with double icons, and had to remove one of them.

Since the current (and likely future) standard is the registry startup, it would be best to declare the program menu startup entry redundant, and delete it - that's easier (with a right-click/delete) anyway.

The newer BOINC installers put the "run" instruction into the registry. The old BOINC installers used to put a shortcut link in the start menu startup group. [...]
Since the current (and likely future) standard is the registry startup...

OT: Having a reg. entry instead of a link is fine. Just how to convince the devs to also think of HKCU in addition to HKLM...

Peter

The newer BOINC installers put the "run" instruction into the registry. The old BOINC installers used to put a shortcut link in the start menu startup group. [...]
Since the current (and likely future) standard is the registry startup...

OT: Having a reg. entry instead of a link is fine. Just how to convince the devs to also think of HKCU in addition to HKLM...

Peter

Rom explained it once. HKLM gives BOINC a chance to sniff around. If it finds HKCU saying 'no', it goes away again. The downside is: each new user starts with a default presumption of 'yes', and users who don't share the enthusiasm of the person who first installed BOINC have to manually switch the option to 'no'. I suppose they get more cycles that way, but it's debatable....

I get it, as BOINC's opportunity to spread around.

But the unanswered question: is then the existence of the "Allow all users to control BOINC" checkbox necessary at all? Unauthorized (from the installing user's point of view) users will get the Manager, but are not allowed to use it, not able to control the client and apps with it.

Peter